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  1. The Scrolls of Icaria

    Welcome SeededDreams. Can I just call you Seeded? It just sounds sexier. Losing ones we are close to is always tough. It makes us better people though because we learn from it. We learn what is truly important and we treat others better I think. Life is about learning. I too would love to see Jamie return and give us the rest of the story. I'm sure life has interrupted the flow. It happens. But this story is so marketable that I think it could solve many of his financil problems if that is what is keeping him away. Time will tell. Be welcome. No need to lurk, you are among friends here. Cheers, John aka Ricky the writer
  2. Bad Names

    I went to church with a kid when I was little whose name was Peter Bender!
  3. Be welcome. And your birthday is a week after mine and the same day as my son's! Means you have to be awesome. It just does!

  4. Charles Roegier; Who is he REALLY?

    It's also possible that Charles commited his bond to Jamie and it was rebuffed by Croal or some other entity because there were plans for Jamie and he wasn't part of it. The bonding details are not clear. SO we don't know if it is a bond caused by intellect or something more physical. Especially back then when the race and the DNA manipulation was in it's infancy. Let's not forget that there are other worlds out there to that will surely affect the story when they come into play. That's relavent because Charles could have damaged the satalites in an attempt to wait for the authority to pass on making Jamie's affections open to him to try and break the bond between him and Nick. Perhaps that's why the memory loss was so intense. Charles could have altered something or kept them from dosing with the darroot so their minds might be manipulated when they were awakened. There are so many questions and only one person with the answers. GRRRR!
  5. Darroot Tea

    An interesting discusion. Now I'll have to go back and reread. Maybe with a strong cup to jostle the memory. Hmmm, do they make a Darroot Decafe?
  6. The Scrolls of Icaria

    If you think it's any less frustrating for us then think again. But honestly it's not ours to give out. We were only privy to it for technical efforts. But I assure you that we too are frustrated by the lack of contact.
  7. The Scrolls of Icaria

    Wow, it's been that long? *sigh* It was ten years in the making, he created three complete languages, Three societies, hmmm 4 if you include the other world communities. I can't see him giving up on it like that. Life must have stepped in. At least I HOPE that is all that has happened. Perhaps it's time to send out search parties. Try and get hold of AJ or something. wow, over two years.
  8. Just wondering

    Doing a Kyle? I'm missing something here.
  9. Book 2

    I was thinking about Jamie's move to the Sr troupe after the dance of defiance. Two Things that I thought were missing. (It's like trying to sense a spice flavor in something good that you've eaten. But just can't put your finger on it kind of thing.) But listening to it again made it jump out and say, "That's what it is." The first thing is when they told him he was in the Sr troupe and the realization began to settle in, should have been, "No more Sprague and his wicked boot? He can't torture me anymore?" I mean he was the Bane of his existence. His goal was not to become a Sr Troupe member as much as it was to get away from Sprague. I honestly think that would have been his very first thought. It was certainly mine as I was sitting there seeing the world through Jamie's eyes. And I think that was the intended or desired emotion for Jamie at that time. Remember when he woke up the morning after and they let him sleep in? He was terrified that he was introuble. The second thing that I thought was missing and should have driven home the point that he was reassigned as a premier performer is that when he went to get dressed that morning, he should have sported that well talked about new Bright Red Sash With Gold Trim. That should have been sported in the Empresario's Office as well as the bright Red Piping on the tunic. Another place it should have shown up was Jamies Confrontation with Sprague. The Rescue of Giovani the second time. With him noticing that he [Jamie] now wore a sash of equality. It would have been obvious to Sprague because it showed that he either lacked judgement or was just bitter when people saw it. Especially amongst his peers who knew he kept this premier dancer of unequaled abilities in the lowest position in the Jr Troupe. It was an additional slap in the face and it very well could have been the first time he had seen him wearing it. It could even be part of the arguement. i.e. ( You think that sash with its gold braid can save you, well it can't, I know you for the walking feather rot that you are. . .) You know. Those are just my thoughts. There was so much made of the different colors that I thought it should have played a little more after he got one of supreme rank. I hope those two things are redressed in the rewrite. I think it would add completeness to the transition.
  10. Just wondering

    Well it is good to know he is alright. Things just aren't going great for him right now. We all have those times. This too shall pass I am sure. I just hope it is sooner than later. As do many I am sure. But most of all, I hope things get better for Jamie quickly. Thanks for passing it along Jan. Ciao
  11. Book 2

    OR Was it possibly within the worm set in the net for Jamie by Charles. Remember that the reassimilation ceramony was "written" by Charles! It very well could have been in the worm. I suspect that we will find that Charles is a much greater friend to Jamie than suspected or lead to believe. Again, his mate is a mystery but I think a greater player than let on. And I think that this is a pivatol event in the story. It's the WHY for everthing Charles did. Something tells me that Charles is the key to all of it. And "no" Pietro, I have nothing to back up the feeling. Just a gut instinct. It is interesting, and I may be wrong, that we hear noting of Charles once the campagin starts. Was he left with the rest in Karonas of did Jamie indeed kill him? I don't recall hearing anything past Charlie's resurection. Anyone want to correct me? It is something that just this moment crossed my mind and I could be completely wrong on this point. Cheers. (I'll bet Jamie is LOVING all this discussion. I just hope a new chapter is enroute. Gold may have some answers.) I think it would be a first though. Traditionally, interludes only give supporting information on why or how things are what they are. However, the Silver DID answer the question of why 2,500 years instead of 150.
  12. Book 2

    How do we know this? I don't recall a reference to it. Renaud was obviously there because he and Jamie set up the ghoster booby-trap. But I don't recall any other specifics towards the orb, who had it, or how it was placed in the CSU.
  13. Book 2

    Jamie didn't complete his puberty cycle until the end of things. It was after the exhibition to the Gjadar. That was a short time before the uprising. If Charlie was two years younger then he still has a ways to go given that he was in stasis. I believe that Ranaud had to place the orb of the unicorn in the stasis chamber. Remember that it was he and Jamie that placed them in it and it would make sense that Enrich kept the orb of the Unicorn in defense as it delivered the charm of pain. He would have seen that as his ability to control the Wizard. And protecting Jamie from his ability to defend himself would in fact be fulfilling Renaud's prime directive, to protect Jamie. Jamies tattoo never disappeared. It appeared as a black smudge perceived at the time in the dance Ecole as some make-up that would not wash away easily. The it appeared after his fever and vision. It was after he entered the code to activate the screen that it actually appeared. But the story does jump around in time which might be why you thought it came and went. (Time tortures me. I'm dyslexic. As of this point B2P2 CH 41, Charlie and Giovanni neither one have completed their puberty cycle. Remember that they mated early because they were afraid the future was limited and uncertain. I don't get the need for their separation in stasis. It seems they both would be needed in tandem so safeguarding one from the other to keep one alive should the other fail in stasis seemed odd. Perhaps it was because Charlie had to teach the ceremony of assimilation to Giovanni. And at the time Charlie was the only one who knew it. Not knowing that Charles, who wrote it would be around. And if the only two who knew it weren't alive, the wizard / king plan would be doomed knowing that the orbs were scattered. And we really still don't know how that occurred. I think that the tower is a terraforming device and that the shield generator will be what protects them all. But it may need the energy of all involved to bolster it to withstand such an event. We don't even know if it is still operating. I doubt that Lorran has any Ghrum DNA because he didn't start trying to use it [The Ghrum DNA] until he left Gold Glass and that was well after Lorran was decanted. I think that is why he is the only one who really needs the orbs. Charlie may not need the tattoo because his body produces the viruses. And there was speculation that Jamie might need a booster. I don't think that the entire race of non throne Icarians was derived from Ghrum DNA. Their wings are quite different than the feathered Icarian. In fact I think they were described more like the traditional bat or Dragon type than feathered. Although When Luke touched Jamie's wings they were said to not feel like they looked. they appeared soft but felt leathery. Cody may have been one of those experiments with the Ghrum DNA from Gold Glass that was just kept around to see if anything developed. And without the training that Jamie gave him, it was destined for failure. Remember that they said the scientist at Gold Glass tried a few experiments with the Ghrum DNA before deciding that it would have to wait and was put aside because the Plague was becoming a more urgent problem. Only what Croal ferreted away to his private villa was available. Croal did not create all Icarians. Just the cells they stocked and then manipulated as they saw fit. And the DeVallen DNA was only available to Croal. That was in one of the interludes where they wer gathering the tooth. They mentioned that the agramon crypt was next door but that was another's job. But who is to say that in the circle of andra or at gold glass there is not an unknown orb or that a second complete set doesn't exist. I mean, it's a virus right? How tough would it be to make more than one? There might be enough to give every Icarian a set. At the time, it was only 800 and that's if none died. Their Cap was set at 1500 but only around 800 were decanted and viable at the time of the uprising. I DID see that at the ball at Enrich's Birthday, that Mathew and Lance made an appearance at the party. I had missed that before. I have to go back once again and look at that part a little better because I fail to see the relevance. So I think I may be missing something. That's all I got. I'd like to know if anyone else gleaned anything from the appearance of Mathew and Lancelot at the Emperor's ball.
  14. Book 2

    Well in the vision at the end of Jamies Puberty cycle, Croal tells him to go to the Monastery and read the runes. Jamies says, "He knew!" And that may be a possible scenario, but again, there would be no need for the tattoo OR the orbs. Jamie has the power anyways. The ONLY reason would be if he was to replace Lorran. And I would think that it [the orbs] wouldn't call to Jamie if he was just backup. And I would venture to say that if Jamie has all the viruses, then the Germanis won't affect him. It was well known that Lorran was not doing too well at gold glass. He had not be exposed to the outside world so although his knowledge of the orbs is extensive, his knowledge of human or Icarian Nature to circumstances that were occurring in normal life were a complete mystery. As for it needing Alexander as well? Perhaps. We know he is not out of the picture yet, He told Jamie to bring Lorran to him. He wouldn't do that if he was not going to be there to receive him.
  15. Book 2

    If that were true, then there would be no cause for the tattoo or the affinity for the orbs. That had to be intentional and as I see it, could serve no other purpose. So Croal had to have intended for Jamie and Nic to be King and Wizard. There is no other explanation for it. In fact, it was an on going process because Jamie and Charlie were both injected with the viruses and Charlie's body produces the virus. Again, further proof that his intent was plainly to insert them into the rolls of King and Wizard. Again, no other cause is possible that I can see. I am curious though to see if Charlie gets a tattoo when he ends his puberty cycle like Jamie did. That would indicate that he will be the recipient when the orbs are released from both Jamie and Lorran. And I still think that Charles was in league with Croal. I wonder if his mate was male or female. And why was he able to continue after his disunion? I think it would be unusual for him to be the Unki if he were deemed unstable. And I'm certain that he tipped off Croal that they were coming, it was his time. B2P2 Silver shows he was indeed with the resistance. When he had the State assigned assistant put to death for finding out about the diverted funds. (Pretty sure it was silver. Could have been B2 P2 41.) We shall see. You didn't comment on the tower of Infinities possible function being transforming.
  16. Book 2

    I don't entirely agree with the comment that the resistance did not have any idea about Nickolas for a few reasons. Castor made the comment, "I learned a lot living with your Dad." Referring to his ability to covertly dispose of the Jewelry and to get the money to the resistance. And the fact that Charles was part of the resistance. I think that this was because Croal made him a mate. And Croal was Charles' father as well. Since he was the first Icarian and Croal created the first Icarian, that made Jamie and Charlie and Lorran his brothers. Yes he had to sign the orders for Croal's death, and Croal knew it would someday come, knowing it was coming he wanted to protect the brothers. So Charles protected his brothers. (Even though he did not know about Charlie.) this is an angle we haven't really discussed before. But we know Charles lost his mate. It would stand to reason that Croal made the second icarian as well as the first. He would have to to verify his research. Another fly in the ointment is Cody. We know that the mental powers come from the Ghrum dna. That means that Croal had to have a hand in it. Even if it was just slight. Gold glass never did anything with the Ghrum dna, only Croal did. So is cody a croal creation? Even though his powers were slight in the beginning? Being exposed to Jamie, his powers have significantly grown. Giovanni's entrance into the picture I think was as carefully crafted as Nickolas's I think. It was extremely odd for an Icarian to be in Expedition and service and usually when that occurred, it was in a noble's home. Another co-incidence? I don't think so. He fit in to well. So there is to much of croal's "start and experiment and let it run it's course" to think that the resistance was clueless or that these numerous co-incidence were anything but manipulations to the experiment. The real wild card here is the tower of infinity. And the prophecy told in the runes. What is it that they will need to do that both Charlie and Jamie and "even Lorran" might have to "help with"? Is it a terraform device? One that would eradicate all like when it activated? This can still go a lot of different directions. Castors ability to manipulate his ownership to get to the Ecole shows how connected he was even then. Add that to the belief that " What DeVallen and Agamon put together can never be torn apart" it would be silly to think that a pairing of the two was by accident. And one more thing, The publishing of the "intent to mate" And one more thought. Having the Ghrum dna in their systems means that they may live forever, unlike the thrones. That fact presented by Jamie when he realized that Master Saki "knew" Nickolas Agramond personally. He didn't start working with Grum DNA until he left Gold Glass so Jamie and Charlie both have the Ghrum DNA. I wonder who the woman that had Jamies' eyes
  17. Book 2

    Once again, in B2 P2 Croal, in the end of puberty cycle vision, says he must be strong to help Charlie when, "it is time". It also mentions the Tower of Agramon and what's in it. Both in the vision and later when Jamie is telling the history to Stephen Prekinziy and Damian. I am sure there was something there that I missed so I will have to go back to it before I convert Book 3 and start giving IT a listen. There is certainly a lot more to pick up after the second or third complete read through. You spot more from the complexities discovered later. Nothing major but a lot of little things that confirm suspicions. I have no doubt that Charlie will be the Wizard and Giovanni, the King in the end. The question is really, what happens to Jamie and Nic? I think if he killed them off there would be a charter to Belgium for the next butt kicking contest. Figuratively of course. Once again, I am amazed at the complexities of the story and how carefully . . . no, masterfully, that they have been woven into the fabric of this epic tale. It is rapidly becoming one of those stories that you almost don't mind the lag in posting, because every chapter now brings us that much closer to the end of a truly great adventure. Thanks Jamie.
  18. Book 2

    Just going through the story from the beginning again. In book 2 Part 2 When Giovani wants to go along to get Charlie. Jamie implies that he, Giovani, is the King to be. And it is further supported by him calling Jamie "my regent". That would make Charlie the true wizard. That would make Giovani, the king, Charlie the Wizard and Johnathan the oracle. A child shall lead them. Or in this case, children shall lead them through the infancy of a society. So what then of Nic and Jamie? Jamie must die as must Lorran for the orbs to be released. Well, only one must die if by the hand of the other. But there is still the matter of re-assimilation.
  19. The Scrolls of Icaria

    ANYTHING he sends you is gold.
  20. The Scrolls of Icaria

    Oh well that makes all the difference in the world. Never mind then.
  21. The Scrolls of Icaria

    I know when it's good, it's hard to wait. But remember that this has been a ten year project. You can not rush greatness. Quality creates it's own demand. I'm glad he takes the time to maintain the level of quality he has. Consistently throughout the entire story. This is not an easy write and it is extremely complex especially at this juncture of the story. Lines have to be drawn very carefully and deliberately. Rushing is not an option. Busting his chops for not meeting your demands for speed would be offensive to most. Particularly in a story of this complexity. If it is too slow for you then perhaps a sabbatical from reading until it is completed is the best answer for you, if you are so bothered that you have forgotten your manners. We have an old saying here, "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth." Comments inferring that you are suffering from having to wait too long are flat ungrateful and ill mannered. I for one am pleased that he has shared it with us at all and if I exit this world before it is finished I'll have something to look forward to in my next life. Especially with the great joy it has added for me and so many others in this one.
  22. The Scrolls of Icaria

    Something not really talked about that I think will have bearing on the rest of the story is that the empire has not died away. They have merely isolated themselves. And the gates were shut down. Now, if Jamie can reactivate them, he can enfold the empire into the scheme of things. Reopen communications and share technologies. After all, the plague is long gone. And their technologies have grown 2,500 years and even back then, in the beginning, they had satellite communications and were able to monitor limited things even from their home worlds.. What if they start picking up emanations from the once dead Argon? A power emanation the size of the forcefield could easily be picked up by other worlds when it is shut down. What if they showed up in force to try and reclaim the world? And what if, at that time, it was being run by a race of boy angels? In 2,500 years, their cultures may have also changed dramatically. Perhaps they became a conquering world. Who knows what affects that could yet create within the story. Let me just say this. We know they were the beginning of the story. A major part of it. I can't imagine they were just there for foundation. They still live. And Jamie can activate and control the gates. We shall see. Jamie is notorious for using a seemingly insignificant point and weaving it into a major factor in the story. Look at the amulet! Any thoughts on this matter?
  23. Interlude - The Seventh

    Short, and sweet. It was nice to know what happened to Larrus. On the other hand it didn't actually advance the story or answer any of the unresolved questions. That Taldor Valen was an Imperial reserve was pretty much obvious, as I commented previously. It was also pretty obvious that Taldor Valen prospered, so, other than learning that Larrus lived to a ripe old age and never forgot Jamie, this interlude didn't tell us very much. Still it was a nice little addendum to the story, and it definitely had a high 'Aaaahh' quotient but did little to quiet those of us impatient for answers. Remember that the purpose of the interludes has always been to neatly tuck away loose threads or to give background on a newly introduced character or set of circumstances that was not completely defined. So in that respect Iron serves to solidify our suspicions about Taldor Valoren. The fact that it also tied up the character of Larris, I thought was brilliant. remember when he passed through he asked if he would see him again and it was emotional for Jamie. Laris was an important character. Without him the cape of the Lord Protector would never have found it's way onto Jamies back after that first performance. He also set the tone and tenor for Jamie's treatment by the staff and students at the Monde Arts. Without him he may have had more friends but compassion was not alive and well in the schools culture, in fact it was seen as a weakness. It was important in the story for stating Jamie's belief that for all their freedom, they too were still slaves. It was also functional in securing the Kalorians love, and respect and admiration for the lord high protector. A man is judged by how he treats those who serve him. Was it significant for the story plot? Perhaps not, but as Jamie does so well, it trims off another loose thread making this package clean and complete. It solidifies the passing of time in the settlement. That point where the gods of the past become true legend. I think it was important. Don't worry, I'm sure the great battle we have all been waiting for isn't far off. The answers to whether Jamie will live or die or die and then live will be answered soon. Whether he will have to absorb the orbs at all or whether the powers he has will manifest themselves again will soon be evident. The fate of Lorran and the reestablishment of the kingdom is at hand. Charlie's role will be explained and love will rule the Icarian world soon enough. My only hope is that Charlie and his mates joining is made a large event and not brushed aside as a minor subplot. Their love has been chased and yet intense. I think the emotion of their Joining would be a senseless waste were it not exploited. Perhaps a Joining in the midst of the war. An untrampled fragile tulip standing in the midst of a smoldering battlefield so to speak. Their needs tp be resolution to their suffering without each other.
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  25. The Scrolls of Icaria

    And a fantastic chapter it is too.
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