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TomasG

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  1. SNIP.... You're going to hate me for this, but I'm going to change directions here. We know that Alexander was killed on the Battlecom and it could very well have been an accident. I don't think it was stated that Hippolito was present at the training camp in Piropolis on that day. We're assuming he was. We also know that at one point, Miro, hearing voices in one of the dressing area's, snuck in and listened in on a conversation about Alexanders death. When everyone left, he went in and took Alexanders knife that was laying there. He then gave it to Nic years later.

    Nah! No reason to hate you.

    Hippolito himself stated that he was there when Alexander was "killed".

    Book 1, Chapter 50 during the confrontation between Jamie and Hippolito:

    “Do they?” I shouted back. “And what about the death of King Alexander? … Also an accident?”

    “Yes, I was there when he was killed…”

    “Killed?”

    “Well… yes… killed, but it was an accident; it was during the testing of a new Battlecom model.”

    Miro didn't say that he overheard voices or a conversation in the dressing area, just that when he heard of Alexanders death he snuck into the private quarters where Alexander changed, found the dagger and took it.

    From Book 2, Chapter 8 after the Gahdar ceremony in the forum before leaving for Wrenstatten.

    “This is the dagger of King Alexander,” Miro said. “I was in the training hall the day he was killed. When I heard of his death, I snuck into the private quarters where he used to change, and it was there I came across this. I took it not as an act of thievery, but to keep it from the hands of those who would have dishonored it. I hid it in the barracks and never let anyone else see it.

    Ii is my opinion that it was Loka's hidden agenda and ambition to sit on the emperor's throne not Hippolito's. I think that Hippolito only aspired to sit on the Avionne throne and every step that he took to reach that goal, unbeknownst to him, furthered Loka's agenda. Consider, Loka was in charge and controlled all things Avionne which would have included the creation of the army of Thrones and he was also in charge of the preparations for the evacuation to Argon. Also, Charles said that the Thrones was supposed to be the kings army, although the emperor was under the illusion that it was his army to control.

    Now with all that in mind. Let's take Hippolito first. Remember in the emperor's box at Le Mondele, he imagined his self sitting on a similar seat not the emperor's seat and he thought he knew of a way to accomplish that goal. Of course, it was easy to get Loka to intercede with the emperor and get him elevated to a prince and then rule that he was to mate with Jamie, since that furthered his agenda. Voila! Instant king. Goal accomplished.

    Ah, Loka, the other snake in the brier patch. Loka has two options to achieve his goal of sitting on the emperors throne. 1) Because he was in charge of the preparations on Argon, he could have the emperor's cryo unit rigged so that it failed and the emperor wouldn't survive stasis. Then since he would have control of probably the only existing army through his protege the Avionne king all he would have to do is claim the throne as his. 2) His second option is the same with the exception that the emperor is left to survive stasis, but Loka would till control the army and could easily depose the emperor and claim the throne.

    That there would be a wizard who would be the final authority over the Avionnes is of no consequence, since both Hippolito and Loka, especially Hippolito, think that the Jamie as the wizard is nothing more than an empty headed dancer and easily controlled and manipulated. Although, there at the end, doubt's about who and what Jamie really is have been raised in Loka's mind by Jamie's preparations and performance in the Crystal Sphere.

    But then, none of the above has any significance or importance and is totally irrelevant to the story as it is unfolding.

  2. I think Hipposnakes plotting to become king was made obvious in Book 2, Chapter 29 after Jamie's performance for the Gahdar. We found Hipposnake in the Emperor's box...

    Before leaving the box, he walked down the steps until he stood to the right of the imperial throne. Gently placing his hand on the arm of the golden throne-like seat he imagined himself sitting in a similar seat and smiled. At one time such a dream would have been considered an impossible fantasy, but now he was beginning to see how it just might become a reality.

    How else but eliminate Loran and Alexander as wizard and king. The easiest way to do that is to kill Alexander diving Loran insane because of disunion, thereby eliminating him as the wizard candidate. Then become king by mating with Jamie who would be elevated to wizard. A part of the plot happened... but the best laid plans... :) I think that Hippolito being elevated to Prince was part and parcel of the plot since it would be logical for a prince to be mated to a prince. All with the background machinations of Loka since he had the Emperor's ear.

    As far as Miro being rude. I doubt that he had anything to fear from Hippolito. Remember, Miro is the primi half of the Emperor's Gahdar Duet and has the Emperor's favor, which I would think rates higher than whatever Hippolito might have had, if any. Also, since Miro and David live in the castle they would be privy to any rumors about Hippolito and not being the dolts that Hippolito think they are would have figured out what a snake he really is.

  3. Snip... I would have to think it was Loka who had it released.

    I quite sure that it was Loka that ordered the release, if indeed it was released. I was just commenting that he probably had it done through his agents in the Sh’ônfenn. I would hazard a guess that Charles had nothing to do with it. He probably knew about the virus, but likely didn't even know that it had been ordered released, but since he is the head honcho he gets the blame, whether or not he deserves it.

    TomasG

  4. Now that is the other side of the same coin. It may be that the virus was released and the barrier was raised to protect the Kalorians that were elsewhere, other than Altinestra, from the virus. In that case, there may well be no one and nothing but ruins behind the barrier unless, as pietro suggested, the giant machine was in fact turned into a giant stasis generating unit capable of covering Altinestra and the Icarians survived.

    Jamie's statement at the end of Book 2, Chapter 14

    “Now, Charles Roegier, ühn•ki’sh’onfenn of the Sh’ônfenn,” I said without any emotion as I gave him a cold, unblinking stare, “give me one good reason why I shouldn’t avenge ten thousand deaths right now. Tell me, why I shouldn’t kill you on the very spot where you stand?”

    would seem to lend some credence that the virus was released.

    I would speculate that the Sh’ônfenn would have been the ideal agent to release the virus, whether it was Charles or one of Loka's agents within the Sh’ônfenn.

    TomasG

  5. About the barrier... I had previously pointed out (in one of the lost posts) that fences, walls, and barriers serve two purposes. To keep something or someone out and also to keep something or someone in.

    The thought has occurred to me that the barrier may have originally been raised to keep the surviving remnants of the human population from the rest of the continent out of Altinestra so as to protect the Icanian and Kalorians that remained. Perhaps that was the plan to save all or as many as possible.

    Remember, the the period of sleep was supposed to be only for 100 years. Well within the lifetime of the Icarians that weren't put to sleep. I don't think that the longevity of the Kalorians has ever been mentioned, but the Kalorian species would have survived. That being said, it has been 2500 years not 100 years so the question is 'what and who has survived that length of time?' The Kalorian species would likely have because they are able to procreate, but what about the Icarians.

    Now... about that giant machine.

    If you recall the Emperor's ambition and plan was to expand the Empire by conquering the Commonwealth one planet at a time. That was the real purpose in creating an army of Thrones.

    From Book 2, Chapter 39

    The emperor barked out a deep, understanding laugh. “Remember Savaron, our goal remains unchanged. Although we’re not sure what we’ll find on Altinestra when we emerge, we’ll have a formidable army at our command; even, dare I say, an invincible one? And I intend to use them. Given all our careful preparations, it should be possible.”

    “I can assure you that it will be quite possible, my Emperor.”

    “Don’t think I’ve forgotten your hand in this, my dear friend.” The Emperor’s smile never reached his eyes. “With the exogates blocked by the Commonwealth, your back-up plan grows more attractive every day. I look forward to seeing the look on their faces once we unleash the power we’ve been hiding. I dare say it’s been tempting. I don’t like sitting on my hands while the bloody Commonwealth makes us look like eunuchs. It will be a vengeful treat to wield the knife that emasculates them.”

    But, in order to accomplish that goal there had to be someway for that army to be able to get to the planets in the Commonwealth, and the only way that could be done was by exogate and the Commonwealth had shut them down.

    It may well be that the giant underground machine at Overland Flats is at the least a super powerful exogate capable of either overriding and reactivating the exogates on the other planets or directly transporting the Throne army to any planet in the Commonwealth, thereby allowing the Thrones to invade and conquer that planet. An unknown factor is what Jamie may have done to the machine or at least the controls when Renaud took and left him there in Chapter 38.

    Speculation, speculation, speculation... isn't it fun. LOL

    TomasG

  6. What is there to say about Chapter 42. My normal routine is to do a rapid read of a

    new Chapter, kind of hitting the highlights, then going back and doing a slower reread for the

    nitty gritty details.

    Not so with this chapter.

    If the purpose of the Gadhar demonstration in the arena in Imperalas was to show the

    fighting prowess of the Gadhar and to show just how deadly they really are, that goal

    was succeeded in spades.

    Multiple paragraphs:

    Gadhar enter the arena.

    Thrones enter the arena.

    Gadhar slaughter the Thrones.

    Interspersed with comments about the wildly cheering and ecstatic humans and the

    absolute disgust of Jamie and the Trio.

    The interesting part of the chapter is the conversation that takes place back in Nic's

    tent at the Gadhar bivouac area.

    “As you know, tomorrow we'll break camp. It will take most of the morning. We’ll eat

    one final meal in the mess tent and then, once everything’s secure, we’ll be taken to

    the military drop zone outside the city. By then I think it will be late afternoon. The

    same hov that brought us will be there to return us to Piropolis. The Kalorian told me

    there’d be a standard Kalorian crew there, loading the freight. He told me what to

    expect. We’re scheduled to lift off a short time before you and your friends begin your

    performance. Once we’re in the air, the plan begins.”

    Ignoring the exchange Nic continued, “When our mission to Stone Gate is finished we

    meet at Angel’s Fall."

    It seems obvious that the plan is to hijack the military transport (What happened to

    the human pilot and co-pilot? I doubt that Kalorians were allowed to pilot any transport, let alone a military one.) and use it to carry out the mission.

    The earlier part of the chapter, with the exception that the demonstration is part of the

    mainline of the story, at least to me, read like something that would be in an

    interlude.

  7. Way back when I was youngster, I came across a name in the phone book that I have never forgotten. I remember that at the time I just giggled and thought what weird names some people have. The name: Singular Onions Gallihawks

    I seem to remember hearing about a court case where the father wanted to change his surname to Onetoomany after his wife gave birth to their 10th, I think that was the number could have been higher, child.

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